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		<title>How not to hire a wedding photographer II</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four and a half long years ago I wrote How not to hire a wedding photographer, an article that was a response to a Craigslist ad about someone who had very unrealistic goals about what they wanted.  In the article I broke down each and every absurd request the person had and gave reasonable answers.  [...]]]></description>
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<p>Four and a half long years ago I wrote <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/how-not-to-hire-a-wedding-photographer/" target="_blank">How not to hire a wedding photographer</a>, an article that was a response to a Craigslist ad about someone who had very unrealistic goals about what they wanted.  In the article I broke down each and every absurd request the person had and gave reasonable answers.  I&#8217;m going to attempt to do the same thing with a recent Craigslist ad where a bride is flying off the chain at what she seems to think is a case of <em>hanging out</em> and <em>shooting photos</em>.</p>
<p>The original ad posted to the <a href="http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/evs/2804332414.html" target="_blank">Seattle Craigslist</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Attn: Wedding Photographers <img src='http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (Puget Sound)</p>
<p>WHY is finding an amazing wedding photographer so difficult? :/</p>
<p>I am a Bride who is getting married this summer and have yet to find a decently priced, exceptional, amazingly talented, fun photographer.</p>
<p>WHY because the word &#8220;WEDDING&#8221; is involved photographers think they can change you $ 3,000.00 for wedding photos? Oh, because no bride is going to go without so they are going to pay it, because they HAVE to. They are ripping people off for all they have! Why when you want to get married it costs you AT LEAST 15 grand after all is said-and-done? Its such CRAP!! I love all you $ 3,000.00 photographers out there but i think your prices are WACK. All your doing is hanging out at a wedding taking tons of photos and editing them.. and thats owrth 3 GRAND!!! You&#8217;re making so much money its crazy. I just wish people would be more realistic. I mean the &#8220;average&#8221; persons salary for 1 freaking month is somewhere around 3 grand. (Thats making 19$ an hour) So you&#8217;re going to take someones WHOLE MONTH paycheck for one flippen day of photos? Just because you CAN!!?????? So that maybe they will not be able to feed themselves or pay any other bills they have, right? It makes me SICK!</p>
<p>I know im speaking for more than just myself right now. Alot of brides out there think the same thing. &amp; I bet all you fancy photographers wont even read this. oh-well.<br />
Maybe there are cheaper photographers that will read this and LOVE to take my photos <img src='http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Like last time, I&#8217;ll pick this apart and give some depth to her requests.</p>
<p><strong>WHY is finding an amazing wedding photographer so difficult? :/</strong> Truth be told, it&#8217;s not.  There are more options now than ever, magazines and websites like The Knot that specialize in city searches and the abundance and growth of Facebook alone in the last two-three years means it&#8217;s only a matter of updating your status with <em>Looking for a wedding photographer, can someone please make a reccomdnation?</em> If you&#8217;re like most users, you should have a dozen replies within the first thirty minutes.</p>
<p><strong>I am a Bride who is getting married this summer and have yet to find a decently priced, exceptional, amazingly talented, fun photographer.</strong> Well the old saying is, you can have two but never three of the following: <em>Cheap, Fast, Good.</em>  Also, what is <em>decently priced</em> to you may be very affordable to someone else.</p>
<p><strong>WHY because the word &#8220;WEDDING&#8221; is involved photographers think they can change you $ 3,000.00 for wedding photos? Oh, because no bride is going to go without so they are going to pay it, because they HAVE to.</strong> Actually, yes, it&#8217;s partly because the word <em>wedding</em> is involved, but you&#8217;re also not fully understanding the pricing structure for a wedding.  We&#8217;ll talk about that shortly since you&#8217;re going to continue going off into the deep end about it.  And photos are optional, just like a wedding is.  I&#8217;m no expert at law but I&#8217;m pretty sure most states in the USA only require some paperwork to be filled out at a county courthouse, the actual wedding ceremony, for the most part, is totally optional, along with the reception.</p>
<p><strong>They are ripping people off for all they have! </strong>We are?  If all you have is $3,000 then you should probably put that towards your cost of living, student loans and the such, not towards a photographer.  <strong><br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>Why when you want to get married it costs you AT LEAST 15 grand after all is said-and-done? Its such CRAP!! </strong>As I&#8217;ve previously stated, it&#8217;s actually not $15,000.00, that&#8217;s the to hire people who will provide you with the setting and facility to celebrate your wedding.  If you want a professional chef to come to your house and make your dinner, you can expect to pay more for it than if you went to their establishment.</p>
<p><strong>I love all you $ 3,000.00 photographers out there but i think your prices are WACK. All your doing is hanging out at a wedding taking tons of photos and editing them.. and thats owrth 3 GRAND!!! You&#8217;re making so much money its crazy. I just wish people would be more realistic.</strong> Thanks for the love, can never have enough of that.  Now, I&#8217;m not going to argue the $3,000.00 figure you keep because that&#8217;s somewhat dependent on where you live, you&#8217;d be lucky to find a photographer in New York City for that much and in Po-Dunk, Anywhere it might be three times the going rate, so for this we shall stick to it.  We don&#8217;t hang out.  We run a business.  A business that has overhead, such as insurance, gear upkeep and maintenance, transportation, advertising, web design and deployment, brochures, sample books, etc.  All at a cost.  While most wedding photographers don&#8217;t have the overhead of an actual storefront, they still incur costs in their home / home offices such as lines for fax machines, Internet, computers, etc.  Also, there is no W-2 form when you are a sole owner or LLC, this means you need to pay taxes in most states quarterly, most photographers off-load this to an accountant, an added cost.  There are no paid sick days, vacation days, personal or doctor days, those are luxuries not afforded to a wedding photographer.  Likewise, business hours are virtually every hour of every day.  There is no show up at 8am, take lunch from 12:30-1:30 and leave at 5pm, it&#8217;s in your best interest to answer phone calls at 8pm while you&#8217;re enjoying a movie with your family or reply to emails at 1am, so the client always feels their wedding is the most important in the world.</p>
<p><strong>I mean the &#8220;average&#8221; persons salary for 1 freaking month is somewhere around 3 grand. (Thats making 19$ an hour) So you&#8217;re going to take someones WHOLE MONTH paycheck for one flippen day of photos? Just because you CAN!!??????</strong> This is the part in the story where I honestly hope you are good at math.  I&#8217;m going to break down for you very simply what an average wedding consists of, time wise.</p>
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<li>20 minutes: Initial in-bound inquirer from potential client via email or phone call + response</li>
<li>10 minutes: Follow up to schedule a meeting</li>
<li>60 minutes: Initial meeting, this is usually in a home office or a coffee shop of some sorts</li>
<li>30 minutes: Time it will take to draw up contracts, review discussions during initial meeting, send to you for review</li>
<li>10 minutes: Email reminding you that the first deposit needs to be sent to positively reserve your date</li>
<li>10 minutes: Email reminding you the remainder of the deposit needs to be paid in full 1 week prior to the wedding</li>
<li>60 minutes: Driving time to and from the wedding and between the wedding and reception.</li>
<li>10 hours: Provided you are getting married at 4pm and reception starts at 6pm and ends at 10pm, figure being at the Bride&#8217;s house by noon for the getting ready photos, the Groom&#8217;s shots, pre-bridal party posed shots, shots between the wedding and reception.  Basically starting at noon and ending at 10pm.</li>
<li>60 minutes: To import all digital photos and start the work-flow of editing, backing up originals and preparing for final images.</li>
<li>5 hours: Time spent editing photos.  This number varies for everyone, I&#8217;ve generally found in my experience that for every hour I&#8217;m shooting I can expect to spend one-half hour in the chair editing.  This is also weeding out bad photos and getting the final selection ready.</li>
<li>60 minutes: Time to export fully edited photos, catalog them and burn to DVD</li>
<li>30 minutes: To back up the edited photos and keep copies safe via external hard drive or more DVDs.</li>
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<p>At this point we&#8217;re now at 21 hours.  This time has several variables in it and does not include sending files to a printer for photo prints, books, etc, plus picking them up, assembly of them or delivery to you, the client.  Rough math says that&#8217;s equal to about $142.86 per hour worked.  That is <strong>gross</strong> profit per hour.  Let&#8217;s factor in 15% taxes, that chops $450 off the top right there, factor in another $25.00 per month for insurance and a solid $150.00 per month for an accountant.  Then of course there is the cost of running a website, Facebook and Google paid ad campaigns, attending wedding expo&#8217;s, printing promo material, print advertisement in The Knot and similar magazines / websites.  Gas, car insurance and wear and tear on automobiles traveling to and from meetings and events.  All of this and I still haven&#8217;t said one word about the cost of actual camera equipment.  A wedding photographer who is charging $3,000 is probably doing so because they don&#8217;t want to undercut their competition but also because they&#8217;ve been doing it for a while and understand what it is to run a full business.  That said, they are probably bringing between $4,000 and $20,000 worth of camera gear with them to shoot your wedding.  This stuff is all wear and tear items that routinely need to be sent out for repair and replaced over time.  Let us not forget that this is for a <strong>paying</strong> client, not everyone who emails / calls will be a paying client due to schedule conflicts, priced too far above (or below, yes I&#8217;ve heard of clients saying photographer is too cheap for them), or other various reasons.  Same goes with the initial meeting, you don&#8217;t get up to bat and always hit a home run.  All that time is <strong>unpaid</strong> time spent working.</p>
<p><strong>So that maybe they will not be able to feed themselves or pay any other bills they have, right? It makes me SICK!  </strong>It&#8217;s interesting you bring this up, as mentioned before this is a luxury, you actually don&#8217;t<strong> need</strong> any of this to get married.  I think what&#8217;s also worth mentioning here is that it&#8217;s customary here in the USA to expect an engagement ring equal to roughly three month&#8217;s salary of the groom-to-be.  By your numbers of the average salary, you&#8217;re expecting a $9,000 ring?  That&#8217;s a really nice used car.  Moreover, it&#8217;s worth probably about $1,500 if you try to actually sell it because the only thing of real value is the gold or platinum in the band, the diamond for all intense purposes is a thing of value only to initial purchaser, there is no publicly traded diamonds out there in the same fashion as precious metals.  It&#8217;s a number made up by those in control of the mines, that however is a whole other article.</p>
<p><strong>I know im speaking for more than just myself right now. Alot of brides out there think the same thing. &amp; I bet all you fancy photographers wont even read this. oh-well.  </strong>Well this photographer did read it and I&#8217;ll be sharing it with other ones for sure.  <strong><br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maybe there are cheaper photographers that will read this and LOVE to take my photos <img src='http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </strong>Pull your nose out of the clouds, photographers love to photograph, it&#8217;s one of those service oriented jobs where most who do it chose to do it, and they truly love their craft.  They also love to get paid for it, and if you aren&#8217;t willing to pay for their experience, talent, skill and professionalism, then you have missed a great opportunity.  There are plenty of new shooters who bottom-feed and try to start at $500 a wedding, your photographs are going to look like they were shot by a $500 wedding photographer.</p>
<p>You complained a lot about a wedding costing you $15,000, if the photographer is going to make up roughly one-fifth of your total investment.  That means that four-fifths of your budget is going to be spent on consumable, forgettable items.  I&#8217;m sorry, on your one-year anniversary no one is going to post on your Facebook wall about how much they loved the duck breast and mashed squash they had for dinner or how great the DJ was.  They are going to leave comments on the photographs, that&#8217;s how people will remember and more importantly, relive and rejoice at your special day.  For your guests, it&#8217;s just a day they had to get dressed up, eat some marginally OK food, listen to music they probably don&#8217;t like and give you a gift that you probably don&#8217;t need or money that will be used to re-coupe the cost of this whole event.<strong>Similar articles that might also interest you:</strong>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have become totally in love with time lapse videos, and this isn&#8217;t the first one I&#8217;ve posted here and won&#8217;t be the last.  It&#8217;s a skill I&#8217;m working on myself and hoping to get a little better at, but love the concept of this 11 hour journey over 2 minutes. Video made by beepshow.comSimilar [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have become totally in love with time lapse videos, and this <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/amazing-time-lapse-videos-shot-on-canon-5k-mkii/" target="_blank">isn&#8217;t the first one</a> I&#8217;ve posted here and won&#8217;t be the last.  It&#8217;s a skill I&#8217;m working on myself and hoping to get a little better at, but love the concept of this 11 hour journey over 2 minutes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/san-francisco-to-paris-in-two-minutes/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>Video made by <a title="Beep Show" href="http://beepshow.com/" target="_blank">beepshow.com</a><strong>Similar articles that might also interest you:</strong>
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		<title>Best Pumpkin Carvings of 2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four years ago I published the Best pumpkin carvings of 2007, it&#8217;s hard to believe that was four  years ago already! I figured it was about time for an update, so I scoured through some files and archives and found some really great photos!  First and foremost on the list is an amazing pumpkin featuring [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four years ago I published the <a title="Best Pumpking Carvings of 2007" href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/best-pumpkin-carving-of-2007-thus-far/" target="_blank">Best pumpkin carvings of 2007</a>, it&#8217;s hard to believe that was four  years ago already! I figured it was about time for an update, so I scoured through some files and archives and found some really great photos!  First and foremost on the list is an amazing pumpkin featuring a portrait of Steve Jobs, may he rest in piece.</p>
<p><a title="Steve Jobs [PA080528] by Rick Payette, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/catzrule/6224918948/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6224918948_34d2a7f4fe.jpg" alt="Steve Jobs [PA080528]" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p><span id="more-3685"></span><a title="Pumpkin Carving by zoxcleb, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoxcleb/6248138991/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6113/6248138991_704aef4d46.jpg" alt="Pumpkin Carving" width="339" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Jack-O-Lantern [PA080464] by Rick Payette, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/catzrule/6224362713/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6157/6224362713_2664faa228.jpg" alt="Jack-O-Lantern [PA080464]" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p><a title="3 sided pumpkin carving by DavidK-Oregon, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkineugene/6254804163/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6113/6254804163_e5249cc433.jpg" alt="3 sided pumpkin carving" width="500" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="3 sided pumpkin carving by DavidK-Oregon, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkineugene/6254804163/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6113/6254804163_e5249cc433.jpg" alt="3 sided pumpkin carving" width="500" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Carved pumpkin by moonlightbulb, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonlightbulb/6254061256/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6220/6254061256_3a6a4458af.jpg" alt="Carved pumpkin" width="375" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Silly pumpkin face by moonlightbulb, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonlightbulb/6254060838/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6254060838_0de8cdf79d.jpg" alt="Silly pumpkin face" width="375" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="2011 State Fair 06 by L. Richard Martin, Jr., on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bevrichardmartin/6200426122/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6173/6200426122_b95a7d0a19.jpg" alt="2011 State Fair 06" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Pumpkin Carving by Mike Frizzell, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/frizz/6193787980/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6154/6193787980_371f39bd4a.jpg" alt="Pumpkin Carving" width="375" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Farmer Mike by jczart, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fatguyinalittlecoat/6221083211/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6160/6221083211_05f580e7b2.jpg" alt="Farmer Mike" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival 2011 by Bob n Renee, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobnrenee/6253197792/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/6253197792_2bc9f15dd5.jpg" alt="Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival 2011" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p><a title="little buddies by r0ssie, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rossiebug/6250229229/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6250229229_7e96a3a57f.jpg" alt="little buddies" width="500" height="317" /></a></p>
<p><a title="huge pumpkin carving by hanniespice, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hanniespice/6162532036/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6171/6162532036_a22910b286.jpg" alt="huge pumpkin carving" width="500" height="374" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Big E 2011 by Rusty Clark, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rusty_clark/6156202427/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6156202427_72f4a31feb.jpg" alt="Big E 2011" width="375" height="500" /></a></p>
<p><a title="Big E 2011 by Rusty Clark, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rusty_clark/6156202375/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6156202375_74d620b4d7.jpg" alt="Big E 2011" width="375" height="500" /></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an effort to bring the interviews back to Randomn3ss, photographer CT Pham agreed to play Q and A with me. You were recently featured in an article I wrote for Light Stalking entitled 7 Photographers you will probably hear about in the future. I chose to feature you in there because of the urging [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to bring the <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/category/interviews/" target="_blank">interviews</a> back to Randomn3ss, photographer CT Pham agreed to play Q and A with me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4603008552/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3618" title="© CT Pham" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/pham1.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="476" /></a></p>
<p>You were recently featured in an article  I wrote for Light Stalking entitled <a href="http://www.lightstalking.com/7-photographers-you-will-probably-hear-about-in-the-future" target="_blank"><em>7 Photographers you will probably  hear about in the future</em>.</a> I chose to feature you in there  because of the urging of several on a Canon photography forum and your  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/" target="_blank">Flickr portfolio</a>, one that is heavily commented by viewers and admirers  of your work.  How do you feel about this?<span id="more-3617"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>I still can’t believe I was mentioned, because there are thousands of good photographers out there, really quite an honor to be included in that article.  It hasn’t sunken in yet, on what I do with my photography and how many I have inspired and where it is leading to…</p>
<p>A while back a member on the Canon Forum (Phil) created a “Phamster Fan Club”, I didn’t think much of it, because he was witty and made it for fun, but as time went by, it evolved to reality and more members stated they are also a Pham Fan – I didn’t think of this too much, because the forum was mainly Users of Canon Equipment, and mainly for people who are there to learn photography..  heck that is why I joined because didn’t have an SLR or DSLR until April of 2008..  (xti rebel)I joined the forum to learn, improve and get feedback.  (thanks Phil for the fan club !)</p>
<p>But the point of this story is this:  it is easy to impress others who are beginners and I have been at it for a while.   So in my mind,  Phamster Fan Club is a small niche group on POTN only.</p>
<p>So what happened next was a talented member from POTN (Ryan O Hicks) and I hung out more and did 2 successful projects together, eventually became good friends, he bought me a Flickr Account for Christmas 2009; Probably the best Xmas gift I received in 10 some years.</p>
<p>At this time, I was thinking to myself, I am a big fish in a small pond @ POTN, but in the vast OCEAN of the Flickr Pool, I didn’t know what to expect.  So I just posted some photos and do what I do.. talk about how I did the shot, show the info and help others become better photographers and from there my Flickr account and views are where it is now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tell me about yourself, how and when  you got started in photography, what motivated you to start shooting  more seriously.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who is The Phamster?  I ask that my self all the time…   in a nut shell: I was brought from Vietnam by my grand parents in 1973 , the family escaped the war and settled in the Midwest,  raised by my Aunt and Uncle ,went to high school in a small town, was an all state tennis player and went to college on a tennis and golf scholarship, and currently I work for Subaru as a quality engineer; happily married with no children, still a scratch golfer and a county champion, now hobbyist – part time photographer (39 years of age).</p>
<p>I started shooting junior tennis events locally, being tennis paid for my schooling and I wanted to give back a little and always remembered when I was playing junior events, how cool it was to have a  photographer line side taking shots of me.. this was June of 2008 ,  after doing a couple of events successfully, it started to click with me, I can reach out and do more with photography, at this time was when I joined photography on the net and started to learn about what I can do with my XTI.   Some how I was able to do a couple of senior picture jobs, and 2 weddings that year.</p>
<p>My biggest discovery was when I took a shot during a wedding with a softbox and it turned out amazing, At this time I didn’t fully understand the powers of  “off camera lighting” at all, but after that one shot I realized the power of flash photography and what I can do for your images..    so I started to practice off camera lighting with a single speed light and a single modifiers, read what I could off the net, and better yet practiced in my living room with the one light set up. ( in manual mode, both camera and flash unit)</p>
<p>I can not emphasize enough about how important lighting is to photography and how it is helped me get where I am now.</p>
<p>Good sources to learn about Off Camera Flash is Strobist.com and Ali Hohn’s Rock that Off Camera Lighting, and of course Lighting Forums and strobist blogs.</p>
<p>My goal was to be able to walk into a room, a set, or an outdoor location, and engineer a one light set up in manual (camera, and Flash) with limitations of shutter speeds under 1/200 and make a good photo all under 5 mins..  and if you can’t do this under 5 mins, I would recommend spending some time learning or training your self  so you can get good exposures in bright conditions or even at night with a one light solution in manual..  it is really a must for you to have this fundamental stobist skill before you start working with clients or even hobbist level, having this fundamental strobist skill will make your personal work more rewarding.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where do you see yourself going with photography in the next few years?  I know you aren’t a full-time shooter, what would it take to leave your job and shoot for a living?</p>
<blockquote><p>I have been with Subaru for 17years.. and I don’t like change too much..  what I plan on doing is collect data for 3 more years before i make a transition to full time photography.. heck I might be burnt out of photography.. (need to evaluate the market because there are so many good photographers out there; consider if I still love photography or go into teaching or do day seminars)</p>
<p>I have started a book project and would  like to complete it this year..   the book will show an image one page, and the opposite page will show the light set up and my thoughts behind the composition and how I did the photo and the post work and any special comments about this photo, like what I would do different. Also include pitfalls about doing a photo like that.   I am very excited about this project and wish I had more time to complete this.</p>
<p>Right now I do photography not for the money but for the art of it..  I know I don’t charge enough to make a living out of it and it would be a huge leap of faith to jump into it full time, if photography becomes full time, then it is like a job, and the love for the art might not be there and viewed strictly as Dollars signs.. and it quickly becomes cookie cutter approach.. I don’t want that to happen..   so for right now it is classified as a hobby I love and look forward to the next shoot.</p></blockquote>
<p>What’s your current setup / photography kit?</p>
<blockquote><p>I carry all Canon Equipment,  (2 x 5DMKIIs and 40D as my back up)</p>
<p>I have 4 lens from Canon,</p>
<ul>
<li>35L 1.4</li>
<li>85L  1.2</li>
<li>24-70L 2.8</li>
<li>70-200 2.8L with IS</li>
</ul>
<p>I mainly use the 35L on one of  the 5D and the 85L on the other 5D.. great combo.. and this combo is all the camera equipment I will ever need..  (love the primes)</p>
<p>But lighting is KING,  here is what I currently carry ..</p>
<ul>
<li>2 AB1600 2 VagabondsII</li>
<li>Speed lights( 580’s, 550’s , 430’s, )</li>
</ul>
<p>Radio Triggers (in the order I use the most)</p>
<ul>
<li> Radio Poppers RX system (for senior and wedding run and gun style)</li>
<li>Cactus V4’s (for my alien bees)</li>
<li>Pocket Wizards (flex models)</li>
</ul>
<p>Modifiers are important as well, many shoot thru umbrella, (broke 3 this year already), beauty dish, and PLM system from Paul C Buff..  probably one of the best modifiers out there (PLM).</p></blockquote>
<p>Your work is mostly location based and seems to utilize off-camera flash(s).  How did you go about learning how to use / setup / configure these sometimes complex location setups?</p>
<blockquote><p>Setup knowledge comes from having experience and experience comes from multiple shoots,  trial and error; and the will to succeed.</p>
<p>You have to know what type of look or image in your mind first before setting up on a shoot, also after you set up a shot, there will be adjustments and tweaking.  for example my Blonde Bikers shot took about 30 mins to engineer up the light, and about 10 mins for the shoot..</p>
<p>So in the past 1 ½ years:</p>
<ol>
<li> I have had a lot of shoots, client work and personal work</li>
<li>I try different things (and not all of them work out, but I try to countermeasure it right away and improve on the next shoot)  I usually reflect on what I can improve on during post work.</li>
</ol>
<p>What beginning shooters must ask yourself:</p>
<p>Now you just made a good photo.. why was it a good photo? and can you duplicate it?</p>
<p>And if you can duplicate it, can you duplicate it in a bright and dark environment? (and what can you expand this success to?)  Meaning a different Location? Different Subject?  Different Genre?</p>
<p>On the other hand, when you make a bad photo, what was bad about it?  And what can you do to improve it next time?  Was it your equipment? Was it your settings? Was it your lack of patience, did you panic and why? Etc…</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you using a light meter with these setups?</p>
<blockquote><p>No I don’t have a Light Meter, I Chimp and since I use the same Camera body for over a year now.. I pretty much know my settings..  so in about 3-5 chimp shots I should  have my settings nailed to where I like it.</p></blockquote>
<p>People are your main focus, how do you find subjects / clients?</p>
<blockquote><p>When I first started off, I had to recruit a model to practice with (Molly M)  she had the patience to work with me and allowed me to learn lighting and for that she got some good files..  but after working with molly and becoming friends with her I put up an album on Facebook and tagged her name, and then I noticed a thousand of her friends/contacts saw the photo I just created.  Right there is when I realized that Facebook was a marketing phenomenon.</p>
<p>The Core of my Clients have come from Facebook.  My Senior photography strategy was to recruit one person that is active in the local high schools, and work with her exclusively, doing multiple shoots and each time I tagged Tori’s name, over a thousand of her friends saw my photography and from there the rest is history.</p>
<p>It does help that Tori was a cheer leader and her mother was very active in the community; ironically I used to work with her aunt so it was like fate that this family contacted me to do Tori&#8217;s senior photos.</p>
<p>Also from there I did weddings and had multiple new friends request on facebook and the social network just catapulted my photography into the community.</p></blockquote>
<p>The vast majority of your work is location based, do you spend a lot of time scouting or do you rely on a few key spots?  How do you keep from getting bored shooting in the same locations?</p>
<blockquote><p>It is true I have one favorite spot at a local university (Purdue) but I don’t ever get bored of this location, because this location will yield a different look every night, I use this perfect little hill that faces west and the Indiana sunsets does the rest..   I have countless colorful skies because of this one location and every night has a different look and feel..</p>
<p>As for scouting I have made contacts and friends that have property of old rustic farms for future shoots, and I always keep an eye out for unique locations that will yield that jaw dropping photo.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/" target="_blank">Flickr portfolio</a> seems to get  you the most noticed, but your website has you listed more as a wedding,  engagement, sports and events photographer.  Is Flickr your outlet  for showcasing creative work?</p>
<blockquote><p>Truth is I have not had time to update  my website as I would like to.  Flickr has a great user interface,  I can post once on Fickr and update my blog all in 2 simple clicks.   Plus Flickr has this Addictive interaction about it.  And the Vast  Art that is on Flickr is amazing..  I spend alot of time on Flickr  studying and learning from the worlds best every day.  Seriously  I am sure Hollywood Art guys are looking at the EXPLORE section for  inspiration on the next Hollywood block buster poster.. Guaranteeing  that !</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you choose what goes on Flickr  vs what goes on your website?</p>
<blockquote><p>Pretty simple what goes on Flickr is  that shot from the shoot that has great light, and the wow factor!   That one jaw dropping shot you can’t wait to go home and start your  editing on.</p></blockquote>
<p>I still don’t have a Flickr account,  between running my own site and Facebook, do I need one?  I obviously  found you via Flickr, but do clients find you that way or is it more  just for showing your work?</p>
<blockquote><p>My flickr history is this.. Ryan O  Hicks gave me the Pro Account as a Xmas Gift, I didn’t think much  about Flickr, just thought it was another place to put up photos but  after the first week, I realized that the world looks at Flickr as the  biggest photography social network and with my will to improve I discovered  the Explore section of Flickr.  Just spending 20 minutes in the Explore  section made me realized I have so much more to learn about photography,  composition, and post processing.</p>
<p>My work has evolved because of this  membership on Flickr, it has forced me to learn new post processing  skills, become more editorial on compositions with models, etc..    bottom line , if you want to become better photographer, spend some  time on Flickr and interact with the members, it will make you a more  dynamic photographer…  like I said before it is one of the best  gifts anybody has given to me… growth in my photography.. Thanks Ryan!</p></blockquote>
<p>What inspires you / how do you stay  motivated?</p>
<blockquote><p>What inspires me is how some photographers  makes such amazing photos with normal ordinarily concepts in a basic  environment but the out come is amazing</p>
<p>Motivation is coming from my normal  will to create a jaw dropping photo, but since i haven&#8217;t had a Number  One Explored photo, that is motivation enough.. to create a portrait  that becomes Number One on Flickr&#8217;s Explored section would be a great  accomplishment.  Most of the time this #1 spot are landscapes,  objects, and abstracts, rarely is it client work portrait.  So  motivation is for me to create a photo normal client (senior – wedding, ect)  would awesome.</p></blockquote>
<p>What photographers have had and influence  on how you shoot?</p>
<blockquote><p>Zack Arias aka Mr <a href="http://www.onelightworkshop.com/" target="_blank">One Light</a>, David Hobby  the <a href="http://strobist.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Strobist</a>, both got me started with their  strobist ways.</p>
<p>But for Senior photography, people  that have influenced the way i shoot are (Tony Roberson, Ali Hohn, Marci  Ralph) In Fashion i follow Misha Mikhaylov, Alejandro Sandoval, Oleg  Igorin.  And with band shoots Peter Place of 40/60 photography,  and other fellow photogs that I follow are Ericson Calderon, Brian Story,  there are so many names that I know I have forgotten to mention.. sorry</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you think anyone in photography  really creates <em>new</em> concepts or are we just re-using the same  things in different ways that someone else has shot at some point in  the past?</p>
<blockquote><p>I think new concepts are being created  in the post processing genera of photography all the time.  The  way light and colors can be manipulated completely changes the feel  of the photo vs the way it came out of the camera.</p>
<p>Ways to take a photograph has been  beaten over and over, and there are only so many ways to light up a  subject and all iterations have been exhausted.  So it leaves innovations  in Post processing, Compositions, and the ART of photography lays with  the Artist him or her self.. (the jaw dropping photo created in the  artist mind is conceived way before the actual lighting set up is done  and the execution of the conceived photo is the easy part.. then the  post processing becomes the signature of each Artist.)<br />
So short answer is yes.. new concepts  are being created only in the sense of the Art and Conceived Concepts,  throw in post processing and you will get an infinite New Concepts in  photography.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your day job is technical, to say the  least, as an engineer for Subaru.  As an engineer, what technology  or advancements do you want to see implemented in the near future in  digital photography?</p>
<blockquote><p>My work is very technical, but a simple  way of seeing what I do is to assure quality, making sure what we do  is what the design intent was, and preparing for the future builds.   Putting 3000 some parts on an assembly line in a certain logistical  manner with vital safety components, day in and day out is very challenging  to say the least.</p>
<p>With that, the technology to assist  the human build process to control all of this is amazing.</p>
<p>What I see in the future is digital  cameras with the ability to become smarter, more fool proof, and speeds  increasing.  More like the digital video systems that film makers  are using, but each still is capability of being printable and have  the clarity of the current full frame bodies.</p>
<p>Also I fore see a binocular lens system  coming forth, similar to what the human eye can see, a very wide screen  view and similar to what the director of Avatar James Cameraon Co created,   making a 2D image capable of 3D viewing perhaps printing too.   Who knows.. with all new technology, either the market dictates it or  a manufacture just breaks the mold and puts themselves out there and  risk everything.  Like Apple with the iPhone, or iPad.</p></blockquote>
<p>What one photo are you most proud of and why?</p>
<blockquote><p>My <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4610555770/" target="_blank">OMG Crazy Blonde Bikers</a>”   must be one my favorite, because it involves 2 subject matters, Motion  from the bike moving and the hair and scarf flying in the wind.   In addition the comedy of it all, a calm cool biker driving the bike  while putting on lipstick and the passenger is scare out of her mind…  this the title OMG Crazy Blonde Bikers..  haha</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4610555770/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3625" title="OMG Crazy Blonde Bikers" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/omg.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="476" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Also proud of my  4 seasons series, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4406946969/" target="_blank">Winter Wish</a></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4406946969/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3627" title="Winter Wish" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/winterwish.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="484" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4490977855/" target="_blank">Beauty of Spring</a></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/4490977855/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3628" title="Beauty of Spring" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/spring.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="482" /></a></p>
<p>Promote yourself – website / facebook  / flickr / twitter / can I buy prints?  / shout-out and thank you’s…</p>
<blockquote><p>I am really not about promoting my  self at this time, just want to help other photographers with understanding  lighting is the most important part of this photography and focusing  on keeping quality high with every shoot I do for my clients and have  fun creating personal work for myself, and as for what the future holds  for me?  IDK..</p>
<p>Shout outs goes to my parents first,  for giving me what I needed to succeed in life. Teaching me the values,  knowing when to step in to help and let me learn some lessons the hard  way..  having this support from a young age has really given me  major advantages over many people that I have encounter so far, and  for this I can’t thank my parents enough.</p>
<p>The second shout outs go to one Forum..  Canon’s Photography on the net.. with out this forum and the Members  that makes this forum Great are the reason I am here writing this now…    I couldn’t have done this with out this Forum…</p>
<p>To the members that interact with me  on this Forum (Tony Roberson, Mish Mikhaylov AKA Korrektor, Allen AKA  Airfrogusmc, Vigs, Shimmishim, AlexanderGarnder, Geno.ca, Peter Place  AKA GenuineRolla, Erison Colderan AKA Alas, Zach, DJharmonix, Echo,  Robert of TMR Design, Photophil, (Veemac and Yagit80 and others for  the nomination)</p>
<p>To my Purdue Friend Ryan Hicks and  Molly (friend and model) who have spend many shoots with me.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since he won&#8217;t, I will.  Visit Phamstr&#8217;s website <a href="http://www.phamphotos.com/" target="_blank">PhamPhotos.com</a> for information on booking a sitting with him in Lafayette, Indiana and keep an eye on his ever expanding <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/-phamster-/" target="_blank">Flickr Portfolio</a>.  Big thanks to CT for taking the time to do this and share his information, totally down to earth fellow shooter with a great style and willingness to share information.<strong>Similar articles that might also interest you:</strong>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though it&#8217;s 2010 some of my friends still forward countless stupid emails.  Angela, the same person responsible for sending me the insanely popular best pumpkins post just forwarded me an email that&#8217;s too good not to post up. I&#8217;m already a huge fan of Mad Men, the TV show based in the early 60&#8242;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though it&#8217;s 2010 some of my friends still forward countless stupid emails.  Angela, the same person responsible for sending me the insanely popular <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/best-pumpkin-carving-of-2007-thus-far/">best pumpkins</a> post just forwarded me an email that&#8217;s too good not to post up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already a huge fan of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26tag%3Dmozilla-20%26index%3Dblended%26link_code%3Dqs%26field-keywords%3Dmad%2520men%26sourceid%3DMozilla-search&amp;tag=iphotoforumco-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957" target="_blank">Mad Men</a>, the TV show based in the early 60&#8242;s and focusing on the advertising industry of New York City so this collection of ads that just don&#8217;t work anymore, while totally sexist and completely wrong, still made me chuckle a bit.</p>
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<p>The copy reads: Though she was a tiger lady, our hero didn’t have to fire a shot to floor her. After one look at his Mr. Leggs slacks, she was ready to have him walk all over her. That noble styling sure soothes the savage heart! If you’d like your own doll-to-doll carpeting, hunt up a pair of these he-man Mr. Leggs slacks. Such as our new automatic wash wear blend of 65% “Dacron®” and 35% rayon–incomparably wrinkle-resistant. About $12.95 at plush-carpeted stores.</p>
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<p>It says- “this young man is 11 months old- and he isn’t our youngest customer by any means.  For 7-Up is so pure, so wholesome, you can even give it to babies and feel good about it.</p>
<p>-By the way, Mom, when it comes to toddlers- if they like to be coaxed to drink their milk, try this: Add 7-Up to the milk in equal parts, pouring the 7-Up gently into the milk.  It’s a wholesome combination- and it works!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two of the more popular posts over the last few years here have been of Julian Beever attacks the pavement, and the follow up, showing his amazing street art and chalk paintings.  This is another follow up, showing videos of his work instead, in progress and how he does it. Similar articles that might also [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of the more popular posts over the last few years here have been of <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/street-artist-julian-beever-attacks-the-pavement/" target="_self">Julian Beever attacks the pavement</a>, and the <a href="http://www.randomn3ss.com/street-artist-julian-beever-attacks-the-pavement-again/" target="_self">follow up</a>, showing his amazing street art and chalk <em>paintings</em>.  This is another follow up, showing videos of his work instead, in progress and how he does it. <span id="more-2518"></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Canon announced the 5d mkII digital SLR camera, many photographers instantly became HD videographers as well.   In addition to being a 21mp still camera the second generation 5d captures 1080p HD video.  While this was never meant to replace a real digital video camera due to hardware limitations and memory card sizes, it does [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Canon announced the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001G5ZTLS?tag=iphotoforumco-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as4&amp;creativeASIN=B001G5ZTLS&amp;adid=1KRPQ1KC353QH4E72P5Q&amp;" target="_blank">5d mkII digital SLR camera</a>, many photographers instantly became HD videographers as well.   In addition to being a 21mp still camera the second generation 5d captures 1080p HD video.  While this was never meant to replace a real digital video camera due to hardware limitations and memory card sizes, it does allow users to create short video clips of stunning quality, partly due to the wide array of lenses available.</p>
<p>One of the more fascinating things these new videographers are doing is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-lapse" target="_blank">time-lapse</a> video footage.  A time-lapse photograph involves setting a camera on a tripod for several minutes to several hours, leaving the shutter open and allowing movement to be captured.  In the amazing photo below, a film camera was used for several hours at night and the circular motion of the stars is actually from the earth&#8217;s rotation.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-2180 aligncenter" title="Star Trails" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/star-trails.jpg" alt="Star Trails" width="500" height="331" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Using the basic idea but with snippits of short video that is then merged together, very high quality time-lapse videos have started to appear on the Internet.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">One of the first that really caught my eye was done by <a href="http://www.wlcastleman.com/" target="_blank">William Castleman</a> entitled Galactic Center of <em>Milky Way Rises over Texas Star Party</em>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Tom from <a href="http://www.timescapes.org/" target="_blank">Timescapes</a> specializes in time-lapse cinematography and has a great collection on his website and <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/timescapes" target="_blank">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">And here&#8217;s a short stop motion trip through Barcelona by <a href="http://www.dubassy.com/" target="_blank">dubassy</a>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">As a photographer I find this stuff amazingly intriguing, yet don&#8217;t have the patience to create them on my own.  I do look forward to seeing this new trend evolve though.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Found these little gems last night, not only are they possibly the most unique business cards, they have a great sales pitch to go along with them. Screw die-cutting. Forget about foil, popups, or UV spot lamination. THESE business cards have two ingredients: MEAT AND LASERS.  MEAT CARDS do not fit in a Rolodex, because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found these little gems last night, not only are they possibly the most unique business cards, they have a great sales pitch to go along with them.</p>
<p>Screw die-cutting. Forget about foil, popups, or UV spot lamination. <strong>THESE</strong> business cards have two ingredients: <strong>MEAT AND LASERS</strong>.  <a href="http://www.meatcards.com/" target="_blank">MEAT CARDS</a> do not fit in a Rolodex, because their deliciousness <strong>CANNOT BE CONTAINED</strong> in a Rolodex.</p>
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<p>Equally amazing is that the prototype card&#8217;s reference to <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009A40ES?tag=iphotoforumco-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as4&amp;creativeASIN=B0009A40ES&amp;adid=1D1DNFFD6J7DN2RA8MQJ&amp;" target="_blank">American Psycho</a>!  This also appears to be 100% legit, here&#8217;s the meat masters running their 150 watt Co2 laser:</p>
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<p>These scrumptious business cards are not ready for sale yet, but more photos, an explanation of the process and general info can be found on the <a href="http://www.meatcards.com/" target="_blank">Meat Cards website</a> or by following them on Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/meatcards" target="_blank">@meatcards</a>.<strong>Similar articles that might also interest you:</strong>
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		<title>World Championship Sand Sculptures</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Sand Castles]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[This was sent in by Randomn3ss reader Angela, simply amazing. These are sand castles from this year&#8217;s competition at Harrison Hot Springs , British Columbia Canada . They last until the weather takes them down. Harrison is well known for their perfect sand for building sand castles. So much time to create them, so little [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was sent in by Randomn3ss reader Angela, simply amazing.  These are sand castles from this year&#8217;s competition at <a href="http://www.harrisand.org/" target="_blank">Harrison Hot Springs</a> , British Columbia Canada .  They last until the weather takes them down. Harrison is well known for their perfect sand for building sand castles.  So much time to create them, so little time to enjoy them.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2024" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image001.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="268" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2025" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image002.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2026" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image003.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="276" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2027" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image004.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2028" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image005.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="289" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2029" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image006.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="274" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2030" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image007.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="261" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2031" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image008.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2032" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image009.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2033" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image010.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2034" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image011.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2035" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image012.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2036" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image013.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2037" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image014.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2038" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image015.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="465" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2039" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image016.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2040" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image017.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2041" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image018.jpg" alt="" width="333" height="500" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2042" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image019.jpg" alt="" width="333" height="500" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2044" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image020.jpg" alt="" width="333" height="500" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2045" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image021.jpg" alt="" width="214" height="500" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2046" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image022.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="272" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2047" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image023.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="311" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2048" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image024.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="302" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2049" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image025.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="299" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2050" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image026.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2051" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image027.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2052" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image028.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="266" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2053" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image029.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2054" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image030.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="247" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2055" title="Sand Castle" src="http://www.randomn3ss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image031.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="256" /></p>
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